docsaintly 3 hours ago

This series will really make you examine social hierarchies, including the ones that exist today. They are no accident.

  • martin-t 3 hours ago

    Today's social structures exist because they evolved through history and shifting incentives.

    I sometimes wonder if we could design a better system today taking today's knowledge of psychology (and psychopathology) into account and optimizing for values we have today like freedom, balance of power and equality of opportunity.

    • roenxi 2 hours ago

      Yes, trivially. The tricky part is building a system that the median citizen (and the officers in the military) can verify has been optimised that way vs competing, poorly optimised systems that sound good. Factor in the median citizen has maybe a couple of hours to do research, isn't very principled and doesn't understand game theory well. Also consider that high status people are perfectly happy to set up an "expert" in any given field to spread propaganda favourable to them.

      The problem isn't setting up a great system, the problem is what happens when charismatic leaders and people like Stalin turn up.

      • kjkjadksj 2 hours ago

        Banning campaigning would go a long way. The state already mails out voter information containing a little stump speech of each registered candidate at least for Californian elections. Further advertisement is purely propaganda and leads to establishment victories over merit and a genuinely attractive platform.

        • ch4s3 an hour ago

          File this under Lies Engineers Believe About Political Science.

        • SpicyLemonZest 2 hours ago

          Are stump speeches not propaganda? I don't see why the election system should privilege candidates whose political views are most compellingly expressed in quick little text blurbs.

        • jahewson an hour ago

          Being able to give a good speech is merit when the goal is to select a leader.

        • roenxi 2 hours ago

          > Banning campaigning would go a long way.

          With tongue in cheek, that qualifies you as the "people like Stalin" category. Not a good idea.

    • Terr_ 39 minutes ago

      > I sometimes wonder if we could design a better system today [...] optimizing for values we have today like freedom, balance of power and equality of opportunity.

      I think it's important to point out that some people... don't seem to share the same ground-assumptions, and it's forming a rather sharp divide in modern US politics.

      There's a model for analyzing "how could you think that" disagreements which I've found useful, from a (leftist) video essay:

      > See, when you talk to our conservative friend, you operate as though you have the same base assumptions [...]

      > Since we live with both of these frameworks [democratic egalitarianism, capitalist competitive sorting] in our minds, and most of the things we do in our day-to-day lives can be justified by either one, we don't often notice the contradiction between them, and it's easy to imagine whichever one tends to be our default is everyone else's default as well. [...]

      > Your conservative friend thinks you're naive for thinking the system even can be changed, and his is the charitable interpretation [...] Many conservatives assume liberals [...] know The Hierarchy is eternal, that there will always be people at the top and people at the bottom, so any claim towards making things equal must be a Trojan-horse for something that benefits them. [...]

      [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs

      • bongodongobob 9 minutes ago

        Our current regime lies through their teeth daily. Like obvious, completely made up lies. Every. Day. It's not a misunderstanding. One side is pushing for authoritarianism, one is not. One can be negotiated with by voting, the other, violence. I'm so fuckin tired of pretending there is just some kind of misunderstanding between both "sides".

pessimizer an hour ago

When you get to the end, remember that's how many to most black people lived until very recently until they were expelled from the land with nothing, due to the rise of more efficient farming techniques. The very few who owned their own land were more slowly pushed out when they were denied farm loans. Black people owned about 15 million acres of land in 1910, now they own about 1 million.

martin-t 2 hours ago

I can recommend reading ACOUP to any technically minded person even if it's about history.

I haven't had the time to read this series yet but I can recommend for example his articles about the industrial revolution, making of iron and steel or sieges in the Lord of the Rings compares to read world tactics.

He has a knack for analyzing society from a systems level perspective and going into the right amount of depth for somebody who wants to understand the principles without having any background in history.

dmbche 4 hours ago

If you enjoy even a smidge of this, please look at other articles/series on their blog, ACOUP is absolutely phenomenal and I've not seen many writers (here also historian and tenured professor) both be so accessible and graspable while having a deep and nuanced understanding of the situation AND providing ample sources.

10/10 couldn't recommend more.

I believe the Sparta series is the most popular, but I really enjoyed the one on iron.

  • mcmoor an hour ago

    I found the one for Sparta too emotionally charged for my interest. But I really really endorse most of the other ones especially ones touching in economics and logistics of ancient world.

    (Btw he's not a tenured professor, much to his chagrin, he's an adjunct professor. This is exactly why he wrote A LOT about broken academia system too.)

    • dmbche 8 minutes ago

      That's an oddly specific thing to point out

      • mcmoor 5 minutes ago

        It's just funny since his blog is the entire reason I learned about the difference of adjunct and tenured professor, and why a big problem in academia is that they tenure less and less and rely on lots of adjunct professors instead.